View Full Version : Using a single sub-driver in 2 sub kits ?
toppack
11-03-2008, 05:16 PM
Hello,
I have 2 Revell sub kits, the Gato class and the VIIC/41.
I would like to convert both to RC, using a single sub-driver assembly that could be moved from one to the other.
I understand that the Gato kit is longer, but was wondering if the conversion kit (NHY-72005) that changes a VIIC to a D version would make the C/41 long enough?
Will the D conversion kit fit the C/41 hull, without modification?
If so, I will purchase the Gato sub-driver to use in both hulls?
If Not, can the VII sub-driver be used in the Gato hull?
Thanks for the help,
He Who Shall Not Be Named
11-04-2008, 09:19 AM
Hello,
I have 2 Revell sub kits, the Gato class and the VIIC/41.
I would like to convert both to RC, using a single sub-driver assembly that could be moved from one to the other.
I understand that the Gato kit is longer, but was wondering if the conversion kit (NHY-72005) that changes a VIIC to a D version would make the C/41 long enough?
Will the D conversion kit fit the C/41 hull, without modification?
If so, I will purchase the Gato sub-driver to use in both hulls?
If Not, can the VII sub-driver be used in the Gato hull?
Thanks for the help,
You cheap so-and-so!!!!
Buy the GATO SD for the GATO model and the Type-7 SD for the Type-7 models!
neither sized cylinder has the same ballast tank floodible volume or external diameter (the GATO SD is too big in diameter to fit the Type-7 hull).
Apples and Oranges here, pal.
David D Merriman lll
toppack
11-04-2008, 10:45 AM
Oh well, I tried to be Thrifty and Economical. :D
My wife likes that and when shes happy my hobbies stay happy, if you know what I mean. :D LOL :D
Now to deside which to convert first ??? I'm leaning toward the VIIC first and then see if I can make it work in the Gato hull, maybe with extra flotation bladders. What do ya think?
I love a challenge. :D
Thanks for the Info,
toppack
11-04-2008, 02:00 PM
David,
Is one of the two SDs any easier than the other to install and adjust, for a first time project? Considering design of parts, size, etc.
BTW - How many forum-post do I have to enter before getting to Captain rank? :D LOL :D
toppack
11-04-2008, 09:51 PM
Are my questions being Ignored or what?
David,
I first thought you were joking with your remarks in previous post but since I'm getting No answers to my questions, I'm starting to think you were just being Rude?
You cheap so-and-so!!!!
Apples and Oranges here, pal.
If you want my business, Please let me know what's goin' on?
He Who Shall Not Be Named
11-04-2008, 10:57 PM
Are my questions being Ignored or what?
David,
I first thought you were joking with your remarks in previous post but since I'm getting No answers to my questions, I'm starting to think you were just being Rude?
If you want my business, Please let me know what's goin' on?
You are playing it cheap -- to operate two different models you need two different SD's, each one designed for a specific model.
I only want the business of a reasonable and thinking customer. Do you fit that bill? Re-read the catalog, it's very descriptive.
David,
He Who Shall Not Be Named
11-04-2008, 11:00 PM
Oh well, I tried to be Thrifty and Economical. :D
My wife likes that and when shes happy my hobbies stay happy, if you know what I mean. :D LOL :D
Now to deside which to convert first ??? I'm leaning toward the VIIC first and then see if I can make it work in the Gato hull, maybe with extra flotation bladders. What do ya think?
I love a challenge. :D
Thanks for the Info,
I know what you mean.
But you will need the specifically designed SD for a specific model.
Go with the Type-7.
Flotation bladders -- not in my system, pal.
David,
Outrider
11-04-2008, 11:05 PM
Here's the important part:
"neither sized cylinder has the same ballast tank floodable volume or external diameter (the GATO SD is too big in diameter to fit the Type-7 hull)."
The type VII is too narrow to take the Gato sub-driver.
Mr. Merriman is a pretty straight shooter. If he wasn't trying to help you, he simply would've ignored you. Don't take his humor for anything other than the simple ribbing that clearly was what he intended.
toppack
11-05-2008, 10:02 AM
Go with the Type-7.
Flotation bladders -- not in my system, pal.
Thanks for the reply.
Please let me know what is wrong wirh using Flotation bladders? I see that you sell them. Are they too slow?
You are playing it cheap --
I thought you would understand that I simply can't afford 2 SDs, so I'm trying to be creative and find another solution to what I want to do.
toppack
11-05-2008, 10:17 AM
Please understand why I'm starting to get frustrated trying to get answers to my questions. We are unable to view the needed instructional video files and reports on website and no one replies to my questions and suggestions about this problem.
I've not gotten answers to my emails or called me (number was in emails).
Many questions, on this forum, are still going unanswered, one of which I need to understand before placing my order. (the one about E-switches, solonoid-valve, pump, etc.)
He Who Shall Not Be Named
11-05-2008, 11:42 AM
Thanks for the reply.
Please let me know what is wrong wirh using Flotation bladders? I see that you sell them. Are they too slow?
I thought you would understand that I simply can't afford 2 SDs, so I'm trying to be creative and find another solution to what I want to do.
I don't sell anything to the general public, Mr. Caswell does. He buys all my stuff and sells it -- he also buys from other r/c model submarine product producers and vendors. Caswell Inc. gets those bladders from someone else.
I hate bladders (and at this advanced age, I hate mine too!!).
Hope that clarifies. I can see how you would confuse Caswell with my company, but we -- D&E miniatures and Caswell Inc. -- are two different outfits.
If you can't afford two SD, then get one. Simple enough. I recommend the Type-7 as it (and the model hull kit) is cheaper than the GATO SD and kit. A no brainer.
David,
toppack
11-05-2008, 11:46 AM
I hate bladders (and at this advanced age, I hate mine too!!).
:D LOL :D
I understand completely!
Thanks,
He Who Shall Not Be Named
11-05-2008, 11:53 AM
Please understand why I'm starting to get frustrated trying to get answers to my questions. We are unable to view the needed instructional video files and reports on website and no one replies to my questions and suggestions about this problem.
I've not gotten answers to my emails or called me (number was in emails).
Many questions, on this forum, are still going unanswered, one of which I need to understand before placing my order. (the one about E-switches, solonoid-valve, pump, etc.)
Fair enough.
I just joined this forum after promising Caswell Inc. for months that I would git on line and address just the sort of questions your raising. I've been busy making product. Now I'm trying to wade through all those old posts/questions guys like you have posted here. Bare with me, lots of stuff to wade through.
Oh, and as to my attitude: I don't make small talk, and don't have time for ass kissing or ass kicking on the board; from me its take-it-or-leave-it. I owe you straight, honest, and to-the-point answers. I don't have time (nor the inclination) to romance you or anyone else. If you can't tolerate frank talk then may I suggest you would be happier someplace else. And that's for all my readers here!
I've got pretty much a free hand here to say what I want ... other than dropping the 'F' bomb and some other objectionable forms of communication ... and that's what you all are in for: heavy doses of reality and hard facts.
David,
toppack
11-05-2008, 12:10 PM
Sounds 'Fair' to me. :D
toppack
11-07-2008, 12:23 PM
I finally received the Revell Gato kit that I'd purchased on eBay.
Wow, I didn't realize how much Larger the Gato is than the VIIC boat. At first I was wondering if it was the same scale or not. After looking at the Gato, the VII looks 'Wimpy'. The Gato is a much more Impessive model. :D
So considering that and the fact that I had already glued the VII's hull halves together, I've desided to order the Gato SD kit and RC it first.
toppack
11-07-2008, 01:10 PM
My wife doesn't know it yet but she just bought my first Christmas present. :D
A plastic tube and a lot of other small little do-dads. :D LOL :D
He Who Shall Not Be Named
11-07-2008, 02:31 PM
My wife doesn't know it yet but she just bought my first Christmas present. :D
A plastic tube and a lot of other small little do-dads. :D LOL :D
Good call. But, I hope this is not your first effort at an r/c vehicle!
David,
toppack
11-07-2008, 02:39 PM
Good call. But, I hope this is not your first effort at an r/c vehicle!
David,
No, I presently have 17 operatioal RC wood ships (all surface) and various cars, planes, etc.
6 of the ships are scratch-built (my designs),
but this will be my first Sub and it's been a long time since I've done a plastic kit.
I desided to build 'Something Completely Different', this time. :D
(Different for me, that is)
I figure I can get it all together in week or so. :D What do Ya think?
He Who Shall Not Be Named
11-07-2008, 10:41 PM
No, I presently have 17 operatioal RC wood ships (all surface) and various cars, planes, etc.
6 of the ships are scratch-built (my designs),
but this will be my first Sub and it's been a long time since I've done a plastic kit.
I desided to build 'Something Completely Different', this time. :D
(Different for me, that is)
I figure I can get it all together in week or so. :D What do Ya think?
With that vast background in r/c vehicles, you should do fine with the r/c sub project.
One week -- you're out of your mind! If you do it right, it should take about a month of evenings. Take your time, do it right, and enjoy the build.
David,
toppack
11-08-2008, 09:41 AM
GOT Ya! :D
Just Joking. :D
This is to be my Winter project, so I hope to have it completed by Spring, but No hurry.
Thanks for the help in desiding how to proceed with this project.
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