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Scratch build Soviet Project 661 Anchar "Papa" Class SSGN K-222 1/120 Scale.

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  • #46
    Following your progress, i am increasingly excited about the finished boat! Any chance to get this one in epoxy GFK when your done? best regards Jörg

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    • #47
      Hello all,

      Thanks Jorg, I know you 're really busy but looking forward to seeing pics of the Mike when she does get finished...

      I have spent a little time going over the MBT vents on the underside. I have a lot more to add and will get onto the rest, soon.

      I the mean time I decided to add the safety rails that run down the length of the top hull, either side of the flat deck section that is the foot area for the crew. Its pretty narrow from the front to the end with a curved bulge that matches the profile of the sail. I have used .5mm thick styrene sheet strip to simulate the raised safety rails that is a distinctive feature of Soviet and Russian submarines.

      I drew a line down the centre of the hull, in the middle of the deck section. Then measured evenly either side just to where the hull starts sloping away and marked a line where the safety rail will be placed. The straight lines fore and aft are only broken by the curved profile of the deck rail around the bulged sail section just forward of the middle of the boat. I had to make sure using a really long ruler that the forward and sternward rails were aligned and straight. I then got some fine sandpaper and lightly smoothed over the line to rough up the surface a little for the styrene strip to be laid down.

      I then cut two strips of styrene after marking out the length of the strips from just in front of the stern rudder, near the rearward escape hatch. These strips would extent to just rearward of the sail where the styrene would then curve around.

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      • #48
        Unless the PAPA was a departure, Soviet safety tracks were circular, not square in cross section.

        David
        "... well, that takes care of Jorgenson's theory!"

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        • #49
          Oops.....

          I haven't been progressed to far with Papa at the moment. I have actually been trying to get the retooled Resolution finally completed. I am also building a new cylinder for it that will also fit into Borei.
          I admit I hadn't looked too closely at the Rail geometry on the Papa. May be I should have. I do think that the styrene strip that I use for the rails on my Boats look quite good. I intend to try and get back to Papa soon enough. I still have a lot more vents to scribe and some squaring up of the stern end of the boat. However with a little more fine tuning I should be able to start looking at setting up the moulds and pouring silicon on the appendages. that will be good.

          David H
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          • #50
            https://vk.com/video-53952240_168150...6b06f7019fb980

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            • #51
              Hello all,

              Thanks for the video link there Gantu. As mentioned earlier, this boat was around for 40 years and there are bugger all photos available of it! Why? Plenty of opportunities to photograph this boat out of the water and none seemingly taken. I believe when she was scrapped in 2010 there were foreign observers, surely they could have taken more pics. However this video is interesting, would be great if I understood Russian. however I would love some more drydock photo's of the rear end.

              I am on holidays at the moment but have been busy with trying to get Resolution retooled and ready to go. I'm in the home straight with her as I finally think that I have the proportions right. The new design Cylinder is also coming along well.

              I have done a little further work on Papa, really just scribing and sanding here and there. I have concentrated on developing and refining the stern flat section between the twin booms. This flat section has a mounted stern plane in between the two booms. I have sanded this area down smoothly and then giving a little more filler then sanding back to smooth. I have also been giving small dabs of filler in places here or there. The boat has been sitting on the bench for weeks now under a cloth as it is right under an window and needs protection from the sun. There has been some movement where the wood section meet the PVC pipe. This has meant ongoing sanding and filling.

              I intend on developing a new top of the sail/fin. The printed one that I produced has warped. I also intend on getting the fin finished and then start looking at creating the moulds for all the appendages.

              I have also trimmed the fillet along the bottom of the hull for the lower rudder. It protruded out a bit further forward than the leading edge of the rudder. So I trimmed it off with a knife and then sanded it back.

              One of the challenges of Papa is that the vertical surface hinges are small and well hidden. The top rudder section bucks the trend when it comes to soviet nuclear boats. The movable surface stops short of level with the fixed front surface, they've even put a nav light in there.. It almost looks like its been knocked off or incomplete. Virtually all other soviet boats have the fixed surface extend up and over the movable section, with the SSBNS, and SSGN often having a towed array or like the Victors and Akulas, A pod. I will have to arrange a hinge a little differently. The bottom rudder has little area for a hinge. I have used a small bit of brass tube. I am just concerned that it is a little flimsy and could break off. I also have to be careful that the mould design will allow the resin to get I there and form the small round hinge section.

              anyway,

              enough for now. David H



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