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Start Saving your pennies!

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  • Start Saving your pennies!

    We're up to something! We've acquired some excellent molds of 5 1:96 SCALE MODELS BLUEBACK, KILO, SIERRA TRENCHANT and one more I can't recall off hand. (Help me David, what's the last one here?)

    HWSNBN is busy setting up the workshop to produce these products and they should be available withing a couple of months.

    If you want to put your name down for one, let me know please.
    Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

  • #2
    The Sierra sounds extremely mesmerizing!!!
    IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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    • #3
      Well, that cat's out of the bag ...

      ... Now that it is, let me say: Mike has hit solid gold with his purchase of the entire line of 1/96 GRP and resin Small World Models r/c submarine hull kits. As I'll be the point of manufacture (in turn I'm training and turning over the glass and resin work to the very capable Kevin Rimrodt) the masters, GRP hull tools, and RTV resin tools arrived here last week.

      I've examined and have started evaluation fabrication of two hulls of the goods received.

      You guys know my capabilities; my talent. Which is first-class. And I say right here and now: Dave Manley is, in many respects, a superior model engineer, tool maker, and fabricator! This declarative statement made after close examination of Dave Manley's work and my just completed lay-up of three evaluation sets of GRP hulls from his KILO and BLUEBACK tools. Those tools, like the other three, are in excellent condition and their design permits quick and relatively easy production -- those two properties equate to less labor, hence lower eventual selling price. But, we are a long way from establishment of the retail price .... so don't bug me, Kevin, or Mike about what the eventual commercially available kits will cost. Just know this: you will pay dearly! Got a problem with that?...

      ... You want cheap? Go to the Wal-Mart toy department.

      Right now it's late at night and I'm not slogging through the rain, to get to the shed to find out the name of the kit (one of five) Mike forgot. Yeah, I forgot it too, it's Japanese and that lingo is hard to not only say, but remember ... I'll post the name of that 1/96 diesel-electric ALBACORE looking submarine kit tomorrow. Just know this for the moment: It's a beauty, like the others.

      Oh! .... reviewing our recent e-mails. It's the OYASHIO. There!













      So, You guys are in for a treat in the next year, as we roll out these kits in the catalog. But, there is a lot of work for me to do to get the resin tooling put in order -- configured as how I like to do production. And some of the masters too have to be re-worked to incorporate features that will enhance the already high quality of these fine kits.

      Here are some shots of the masters, tools, and even the preliminary hulls I pulled of the KILO and BLUEBACK:

      The BLUEBACK, SEIRRA, KILO, OYASHIO, and TRENCHANT GRP hulls.



      BLUEBACK resin tool masters



      SEIRRA resin tool masters
      Last edited by He Who Shall Not Be Named; 08-07-2015, 06:02 AM.
      "... well, that takes care of Jorgenson's theory!"

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        KILO resin tool masters





        OYASHIO resin tool masters



        TRENCHANT resin tool masters











        "... well, that takes care of Jorgenson's theory!"

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          And some inside-baseball as to the eventual production process as applied to the GRP hulls.

          OK, enough of the pretty pictures. Back to work.

          ... please, stand-by.

          M

          "... well, that takes care of Jorgenson's theory!"

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          • #6
            Very nice hulls....difficult to choose…..Package deal please (probably have to sell the car).

            Interesting to see the integrated index lips.....isn't it difficult to figure out how much cloth and resin you need to apply in order to have a perfect seem?
            I also like to see how the stern pieces are done…. plenty new goodies to learn here.

            Grtz,
            Bart


            Practical wisdom is only to be learned in the school of experience.
            "Samuel Smiles"
            http://scale-submarine.com/index.html

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            • #7
              Oh no, a Sierra, my missus is going to go mad when I ask....

              Stock SD's or something new and bespoke Mr M ?

              Peter
              Last edited by Peter W; 08-07-2015, 06:24 PM. Reason: I am an idiot

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Peter W View Post
                Oh no, a Sierra, my missus is going to go mad when I ask....

                Stock SD's or something new and bespoke Mr M ?

                Peter

                It'll be a lengthened 'standard' 2.5" SAS, single-motor, single-shaft job. Wont' know how big the ballast tank has to be till I assemble one of these hulls and find out how much water the above waterline portions displace, then add ten-percent, and we'll have it.

                M
                "... well, that takes care of Jorgenson's theory!"

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                • #9
                  So much for being secret. ...Sierra please. The sail photo is seems to be that of a Sierra II? - the bigger of the two versions. This boat comes in at 45" in OAL so 1/96 scale is a nice size. - Wow I just said something nice about 1/96....

                  Am hoping however it will take a 3" SD not 2.5". But David will need to obvious put one together first. This boat will have a beam of just over 5". A 3"SD should be able to sit just below the surfaced WL, - you would expect that being Russian there would be a fair bit of hull above the surfaced WL and associated reserve buoyancy to overcome and given the radius advantage that you get from volume calculations you can save a fair amount of ballast tank length with a 3" diameter tank over a 2.5' and SD length too with less crammed conditions.

                  Folks over the years I have done a lot of fine tuning to improve the handling of my submarines, and am a compete nut in putting grids out over plans to find the COR to establish the COG and the mid point of the free flood tanks I use. In my experience I like to use the maximum diameter SD I can get below the surfaced WL. This way I am concentrating the ballast tank ballast as close to the COR as possible. Longer / narrow SDs and tanks whilst lowering the COG, tend to mean in some boats you have more pendulum effects at either end of both the ballast tank and SD to overcome, usually be adding more counteracting weight, that is not required in shorter fatter setups. I also would add, that I like wider shorter setups for access and less cramped quarters for my gear. Anyway M2CW. If it can take a 3" David - please pursue that.

                  Glad to see a good selection of Grp boats back on line.
                  David assures me the 1/60 Grp Albacore is in the works too.

                  Cheers
                  John
                  Last edited by Slats; 08-08-2015, 01:47 AM. Reason: Spelling
                  John Slater

                  Sydney Australia

                  You would not steal a wallet so don't steal people's livelihood.
                  Think of that before your buy "cheap" pirated goods or download others work protected by copyright. Theft is theft.



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                  • #10
                    A Sierra will be a good companion to my Oscar in 1/96
                    IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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                    • #11
                      Great photos, Mark. By coincidence I was training Kevin today on glass layup on the do's-and-don'ts of Manley type tooling -- I had him working the SIERRA tool. Enjoy:
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                      And some master refinement and additional items added to the BLUEBACK project:
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                      John makes a good argument. I'll investigate the utility of the 3" SD in this hull.

                      M
                      "... well, that takes care of Jorgenson's theory!"

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                      • #12
                        OH by the way. I incorrectly posted a picture of the stern of a Yasen in amongst pictures of Sierras.
                        IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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                        • #13
                          Here are some photos from The Cave showing the update on the sail for the Blueback. Nice work David! Now I've sucked up, -GET YOUR FINGER OUT and get me some product, you bum!
                          Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kazzer View Post
                            Here are some photos from The Cave showing the update on the sail for the Blueback. Nice work David! Now I've sucked up, -GET YOUR FINGER OUT and get me some product, you bum!

                            I'm dancing as fast as I can, Boss. Almost finished with the upgrade masters. Should be doing the upgrade tooling by the weekend, then on to production.

                            M
                            "... well, that takes care of Jorgenson's theory!"

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                            • #15
                              Last edited by Kazzer; 08-20-2015, 07:06 AM.
                              Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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